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              Araceli commented on Wall post by Araceli

              Thank you for your detailed response Dror! It's a very interesting reminder to take into account client's context and belief system.
              I will follow your advice and try to be aware of what happens with future clients
              Thanks!!

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                  Dror Steiner commented on Wall post by Araceli

                  Interesting situation...
                  there are two issues here: first his lower back. Clients have narratives of how the massage should help them. Some narratives are more parallel to our narrative, some are different. This part of our human experience is very interesting. It's how we explain problems and solutions in our bodies. Some people, for example, see pain as punishment from moral 'wrongly doing'. Some see pain as the responsibility of the doctor to get rid of.
                  In healing, it's the same. Sometimes you need to understand the context of the client in what they believe in healing. One example is 'no pain no gain'. Another one is 'energy is not flowing in my body. Another is ' even minimal pain is damaging my body. Park of our role is to explain to our clients 'what is going on' and do that in a way that integrates their belief is something positive, not to completely change it. It is a negotiation, education, listening and more...

                  About the consent: it will be interesting to know what was the different between what you thought was agreed and him. for him it might be 'we agree to work only on the lower back'. For you it was 'we agree to work on the back'. You can learn from every feedback, and you will probably learn how to communicate the consent in a better way, but don't start do major changes just from one client. Just noticed what you have learnt and see what comes next with future clients.
                  Please update with next treatment!

                • Dror Steiner
                    Dror Steiner commented on Wall post by Reann Roach`

                    Maria Kindly agree to take your notes Reann. I think you are not that far from each other

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                      • Dror Steiner
                          Dror Steiner commented on comment by Amanda Kelly

                          I would suggest on the leg to have the 'indirect approach'- apply techniques that do not put a direct pressure on the legs. Those are oscilation, rocking, shaking ect. These are really goof for the lower limbs in such situaiton. you can also apply some stretches....

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                                Pinelopi Mousga commented on comment by Pinelopi Mousga

                                Thank you Fabio for the help!!

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                                • Dror Steiner
                                    Dror Steiner commented on Wall post by Maria Almodovar

                                    Sorry Maria, I have missed this. I will answer it in an email.

                                  • Amanda Kelly
                                      Amanda Kelly commented on Wall post by Jerome Price

                                      Spoke again with client, to clarify few finer points......all good for a relaxation massage, if I do the legs I shall keep the strokes very light, but may just focus on neck, back & shoulders......no more than moderate pressure....feel comfortable at this stage with this

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                                        By Dror Steiner

                                        I would suggest on the leg to have the 'indirect approach'- apply techniques that do not put a direct pressure on the legs. Those are oscilation, rocking, shaking ect. These are really goof for the lower limbs in such situaiton. you can also apply some stretches....

                                    • Amanda Kelly
                                        Amanda Kelly commented on Wall post by Jerome Price

                                        Thanks so much Dror.
                                        Yes, I definately need to ask client more questions, will do that.